William Ury: What 30 Years of Negotiating Civil Wars Really Teaches About Listening
The negotiator who stopped civil wars shares why listening—not talking—is the real key to getting to yes. Practical lessons from 30 years in the world's toughest conflicts.
By Self Employed Freelancer
William Ury has spent three decades mediating everything from family feuds to civil wars. His breakthrough with Venezuela's Hugo Chavez didn't come from clever arguments—it came from staying silent. Here's what he's learned about the most overlooked skill in business.
Who Is William Ury?
William Ury is one of the world's leading negotiation experts, with 30 years of experience helping people get to "yes" in some of the most intense conflicts imaginable. He's worked as a third-party mediator in settings ranging from family feuds and boardroom battles to labor strikes and civil wars, including high-stakes negotiations in Venezuela during a period when many feared the country was heading toward civil war.
His work has taken him into rooms with presidents, business titans, and opposing forces who seemed impossibly far apart. What he's discovered is counterintuitive: the key to successful negotiation isn't clever arguments or persuasive talking—it's the ability to truly listen. In a world obsessed with communication, Ury argues we've forgotten the most essential half of the equation.
Why I Love Learning From William Ury
What makes Ury's perspective so valuable is his brutal honesty about how hard this actually is. He's not preaching from a pedestal—he admits that even after decades of professional success helping others negotiate, he still catches himself failing to listen well to his own wife. That humility is rare and refreshing. He's also someone who has tested his ideas in genuinely high-stakes environments, not just conference rooms but situations where lives hang in the balance.
What I find most compelling is his focus on a skill we all assume we already have. Listening feels simple, almost insulting to talk about. But Ury makes the case that genuine listening is something that must be learned and practiced every single day. His approach is systematic, practical, and grounded in real stories—not theory. When a man who has sat across from Hugo Chavez tells you that listening is more powerful than argument, you pay attention.
What You'll Learn From This Article
- How to shift from ordinary listening (focused on your response) to genuine listening (focused on understanding the other person)
- Why listening to yourself first is the secret to being able to listen to others in high-pressure situations
- What it looks like when listening transforms a negotiation—from a midnight confrontation with President Chavez to resolving Brazil's biggest boardroom showdown
- How to listen not just for words, but for the underlying emotions, needs, and what's left unspoken
- Why successful negotiators listen far more than they talk, and what that ratio actually looks like in practice
- What makes genuine listening so difficult, and the specific internal obstacles that get in the way
Listening Is the Missing Half of Communication
Ury opens with a provocative reframe: we live in what we call the Age of Communication, but with all the cell phones, texts, tweets, and emails, how much listening can there really be with so much interruption and distraction? He poses a question that mirrors the old philosophical riddle about a tree falling in the forest: if a person speaks and no one listens, is that really communication? His answer, grounded in 30 years of work in tough negotiations, is clear: listening is absolutely necessary but often overlooked.
The evidence from his work is compelling. When you study the behavior of successful negotiators, you find they listen far more than they talk. "After all," Ury notes, "we're given two ears and one mouth for a reason. We should listen at least twice as much as we speak." This isn't just folk wisdom—it's what he's observed across family feuds, boardroom battles, labor strikes, and civil wars. We think of negotiation as being about talking, but it's really about listening.
For freelancers and self-employed professionals, this insight cuts deep. We're constantly pitching, presenting, explaining our value. But how often are we truly listening to what clients need, what they're not saying, what's driving their actual decisions? The implication is uncomfortable: much of what we call "communication" with clients might actually be parallel monologues.
Takeaway for you
- Track your listening ratio in your next three client calls—are you speaking more than you're listening, or aiming for at least a 1:2 ratio?
- Before your next pitch or difficult conversation, ask yourself: "How much do I actually understand about where this person is coming from?"
- Notice the difference between waiting for your turn to talk and genuinely absorbing what the other person is saying
The Simple Power of Listening Can Open a Closed Mind
Ury's story from Venezuela is a masterclass in restraint. He had an appointment with President Hugo Chavez at 9:00 PM; they were finally ushered in at midnight. When Chavez asked what Ury thought of the situation, Ury offered a measured assessment about progress. Chavez exploded: "Progress? What do you mean progress? You're blind. You're not seeing all the dirty tricks those traitors are up to." He leaned in close to Ury's face and shouted. What was Ury going to do?
Part of him felt like defending himself, naturally. But what good would it do to get into an argument with the President of Venezuela? How would that advance peace? So he just listened. He gave Chavez his full attention, listened to where he was coming from. Chavez was famous for making eight-hour speeches, but after just 30 minutes of Ury nodding and listening, something shifted. Ury saw his shoulders slowly sag. Then, in a weary tone, Chavez said: "So, Ury, what should I do?"
"That's the sound of a human mind opening to listen."
— William Ury
Ury suggested a Christmas truce so people could enjoy the holidays with their families. Chavez loved the idea and announced it in his next speech. His mood had completely shifted—not through argument or persuasion, but through the simple power of listening. Because Ury listened to him, Chavez was more ready to listen to Ury. The lesson is profound: listening may be the cheapest concession we can make in a negotiation. It costs us nothing, and it brings huge benefits.
Takeaway for you
- When someone becomes defensive or aggressive in a conversation, resist the urge to defend yourself—try giving them your full attention instead
- Watch for the shift: shoulders sagging, tone changing, the moment when someone moves from broadcasting to actually asking
- Remember that listening builds a kind of reciprocity—people who feel heard are more likely to listen to you in return
Genuine Listening Means Moving the Spotlight Off Yourself
Ury makes a crucial distinction between ordinary listening and genuine listening. In ordinary listening, we're hearing the words but often thinking: "Where do I agree? Where do I disagree? What am I going to say in response?" In other words, the focus is on us. In genuine listening, however, the spotlight moves to the other person. We put ourselves in their shoes, tune into their wavelength, and listen from within their frame of reference, not just ours. That's not easy.
Genuine listening goes deeper. We listen not just for what's being said, but for what's not being said. We listen not just to the words, but to what's behind the words—the underlying emotions, feelings, and needs. Ury illustrates this with the story of Abilio Diniz, a Brazilian entrepreneur trapped in what the Financial Times called "perhaps the biggest cross-continental boardroom showdown in recent history." The legal dispute with his French business partner had dragged on for two and a half years, at enormous cost to both parties, their families, and the company's 150,000 employees.
When Ury sat down with Abilio and listened to his story, he asked: "What do you really want?" Abilio gave him a list: stock at a certain price, company headquarters, elimination of a non-compete clause. But Ury heard something deeper that was unspoken. He pressed further: "You're a man who seems to have everything. What are these things really going to give you? What do you most want in your life?" After a pause, Abilio answered: "Freedom. I want my freedom. I want to be free to pursue my business dreams. I want to be free to spend time with my family." Once they were clear about his deepest need, the negotiation became much easier. In four days, Ury and his colleagues resolved the dispute with a settlement that left both sides highly satisfied. As Abilio later told him: "I got everything I wanted. But most importantly, I got my life back."
Takeaway for you
- In your next important conversation, consciously shift the spotlight—stop planning your response and focus entirely on understanding the other person
- Ask "what do you really want?" and then ask it again at a deeper level—what will those things actually give them?
- Listen for the unspoken needs behind the stated positions—freedom, respect, security, recognition
To Listen to Others, You Must First Listen to Yourself
If listening is so useful, why isn't everyone doing it? Ury is refreshingly honest about the difficulty. He admits that there are times when he feels like he's listening pretty well in his work, only to go home and find out he's not listening so well to his wife. "It's humbling, I can tell you," he says. The real problem is that there is so much going on in our minds—so much noise and distraction—that we don't have the mental and emotional space to truly listen to the other side.
The solution seems counterintuitive: if we want to listen to the other side, we have to learn to listen to ourselves first. When Ury was sitting with President Chavez, what really helped him was that just beforehand, he had taken a few moments of quiet to pay attention to what was going on for him. He listened to himself to quiet his mind. When Chavez began shouting, Ury was ready. He could notice that his cheeks were reddening and his jaw was a little clenched. He felt some fear and anxiety. By paying attention to those sensations and emotions, he was able to let them go, so that he could truly listen to Chavez.
This practice of self-listening isn't indulgent—it's practical preparation. What if, before an important, delicate, or sensitive conversation, we took a moment of silence just to tune in and listen to where we are? Ury believes that if we truly listened to ourselves first, we would find it a lot easier to listen to others. It's about creating the internal space necessary to be fully present with another person.
Takeaway for you
- Before any high-stakes conversation, take 2-3 minutes of silence to check in with yourself—what are you feeling? What are you anxious about?
- During difficult conversations, notice your physical sensations (jaw clenching, face reddening, heart racing) as signals that you need to pause and listen to yourself
- Practice letting go of your own strong emotions by first acknowledging them, rather than suppressing or acting on them
How to Apply It
| Lesson | Practical action | Why it matters |
|---|---|---|
| Listen at least twice as much as you speak | In your next client meeting, track how much you talk versus listen—aim for a 1:2 ratio | Successful negotiators listen far more than they talk, and this ratio forces you to focus on understanding rather than performing |
| Move the spotlight from yourself to the other person | Stop preparing your response while someone is talking—consciously shift your attention to understanding their frame of reference | Ordinary listening focuses on what you'll say next; genuine listening focuses on seeing the world through their eyes |
| Listen for what's behind the words | Ask "what do you really want?" and then ask it again at a deeper level to uncover underlying needs like freedom, recognition, or security | People's stated positions ("I want this price") often mask their true needs ("I want freedom")—addressing the real need makes resolution much easier |
| Listen to yourself before listening to others | Before difficult conversations, take 2-3 minutes of silence to notice your own emotions, physical sensations, and anxiety | When your mind is full of noise and distraction, you don't have the mental space to truly hear another person—clearing your own mind first makes genuine listening possible |
| Use listening to create reciprocity | When someone is defensive or resistant, give them your full attention without defending yourself—watch for the moment their shoulders sag and they become open | Listening may be the cheapest concession you can make—it costs nothing but makes others far more likely to listen to you in return |
Your 30-Day Challenge
Before every important conversation this week, take 2-3 minutes of silence to listen to yourself. Notice your emotions, physical sensations, and what you're anxious about. Write down what you observe. This creates the mental space for genuine listening.
In every client or colleague conversation, consciously track your listening ratio. Set a timer if you need to. Aim to listen at least twice as much as you speak. Notice how hard this is and when you slip back into talking mode.
Practice listening for what's behind the words. In at least three conversations this week, ask "what do you really want?" and then ask it again at a deeper level. Listen for the underlying emotions, needs, and what's left unspoken. Take notes on what you discover.
Identify your most difficult relationship or ongoing conflict—client, partner, family member. Commit to giving that person your full attention in your next conversation, moving the spotlight entirely off yourself and onto understanding their perspective. Afterward, reflect: what shifted when you genuinely listened?